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Forespørgsel om Holland Scandinavia Express (Generelt)

af Tommy Nilsson ⌂ @, Ringsted, 14/3 2012, 01:20 (4646 dage siden)

Jeg har modtaget nedenstående forespørgsel pr. email.

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I am looking for the D191-D192 Holland Scandinavia Express, such as;

Timetable, Trainconsistance, Images, but especialy the couchettes/passengercars for download for MSTS.

I am building a trainconsistance and complete train to create activities to ride the complete route form the beginning to the end.

I am now preparing and creating the part between Osnabruck and Bremen at the GR5 Rollbahn (Steam) Now most of ther engines are available and in German Railroad 5 the german Engines are available as well. So this part is created

All I need to prepare the acompaning PDF is material.

I do need the passanegercars from the SJ and DSB for MSTS especialy from the period between 1960-1965.

I hope you are able to help me out.

Sincerely Yours,


R.C. de Visser
The Netherlands

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Forespørgsel om Holland Scandinavia Express

af Peter Matros, Holbæk, 15/3 2012, 07:18 (4645 dage siden) @ Tommy Nilsson

Jeg prøver.... Og løfter det ene bryn.

Prøv Oldtimerklubben Hvor de har en masse til Train Simulator, både fra privatbaner, men også DSB. Der har jeg selv hentet en masse. Der skal man dog registre sig. Men det er en mindre detalje.

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Forespørgsel om Holland Scandinavia Express

af Svend, 15/3 2012, 08:04 (4645 dage siden) @ Tommy Nilsson

Sommerkøreplanen 1964:

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Svend

Forespørgsel om Holland Scandinavia Express

af Svend, 15/3 2012, 11:25 (4645 dage siden) @ Svend

Desuden er toget løb gennem Danmark - køreplaner og oprangeringer - fra 1948 til 1990 beskrevet i de tre bøger Internationale tog via Padborg, Gedser og Rødby Færge.:-)

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Forespørgsel om Holland Scandinavia Express

af Steff, 15/3 2012, 11:45 (4645 dage siden) @ Tommy Nilsson

Mr. R.C. de Visser

I don´t poses the Danish State Railway ”Togplan 5 and 6” for your help. Maybe other readers can help you out in this matter here. But in your own language you will find:
“Internationale naamtreinen in Niederland 1950-1965”, written by Mr. Otto Dijkstra author of the Dutch “Rail Magazine”. You will find the article in No. 288. This will give you a very god background in the matter of international trains to and from the Netherlands.
If you can be more specific later on I maybe can help you in the matter of the CIWL cars used in the different expresses. But if the question is more specific about the CIWL cars belonging to the Dutch Division of the CIWL, Mr. Otto Dijkstra is again the right person to ask.

Best regards

Steff

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Forespørgsel om Holland Scandinavia Express

af R.C. de Visser @, The Netherlands, 17/3 2012, 14:38 (4643 dage siden) @ Steff

I am very pleased with the timetable as well.

I am trying to recreate a major activity concerning at al tracks along this route.
Payware and Freeware. The part brom Bremen to Osnabruck is ready. I am now busy with the reverse ride from Osnabruck to Bremen.

I have now create a Activity wich is working at German Railroads "Rollbahn Dampf (1963)" with the original coaches for so far the coaches are downloadable.

I now manage to create the act at the Dutch part of the Route.
I remember these trains passing by when I was along the railroadtrack near Rotterdam.

Because these trains didn't came to Rotterdam Central Station but they had a stop at
Schiedam Rotterdam West. This was because of the route. Near the Zoo there is a juction coming from Utrecht. Most trains coming from Utrecht geois Left there to reach Rotterdam Central Station. All International Trains to England via Hoek van Holland Goes to the right and merged directly on the old line Rotterdam - Den Haag - Amsterdam up to Schiedam Rotterdam West. After Schiedam Rotterdam West there is an other junction to Den Haag / Amsterdam and to Hoek van Holland. All International Trains with an connection to England has to stop there because otherwise they have to switch direction at Rotterdam Central Station causes a lot of shunting and time.

At the other side of that junction near the zoo there was a recreational park containing small recreation houses with a tiny garden next to it and we had a relative who owns one of those tiny houses near the railroadtrack and we often stay there.

We had untill the last D-Train in the '90s severall of these trains passing Schiedam Rotterdam West and all major D-Trains made a stop there like. Cologna Express, The Nord-West Express with sleepercoaches to Moscow, Warshaw and Berlin in the time that the CCCP existed. We had the Rheingold with the famous colors of the Rheingold. Later on ordinary DB coaches came on this route. The Holland Scandinavia Express whit a mix of coaches from all counties involved in this route.

ALl trains contains the famous CIWL diningcars and sometimes the sleepercars.

I remember the major crash in 1984 with a collision between the Nord-West Express and a local train. I have seen the wrecage of that accident and the track to Den Haag - Amsterdam was completely blocked. The Locomotive series 1200 was hauling the Nord-West Express and was completely derailed and the 1st car of the Local train was standing right up and rested on the 1200.

Most of the mentioned trains contains the coaches type "Bolkoppen" Plan D and K (downloadabe from www.treinpunt.nl) and these coaches where very nice to travel with.
The compartemens where furnished with layers of fine wood and the seats could be setas a small bed.

Together with the DB coaches Abumz en Bbumz (regulair coaches of DB) the trains looks marvelous.

So this is the reason why I investigate the history of these trains to recreate these trains as an activity to drive the whole route as far as possible.

I will post later on the exact constatance of the trains on this site (actually at some sites form the countries where these trains has ran) together with the activities so everybody can drive them within the original timeshedule.

Sincerely

Ronald de Visser
The Netherlands

:-P :-) ;-)

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Das rollende Hotel 1956 (bl.a. Holland-Skandinavien Express)

af Thomas Boberg Nielsen ⌂, Spor 44, Godsbanen, Aalborg, 22/3 2012, 18:26 (4638 dage siden) @ Tommy Nilsson

Lidt mere fra arkivet.

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Med venlig hilsen

Thomas Boberg Nielsen

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Tysk brochure sommeren 1956. Klik på billederne for højere opløsning. Arkiv: Thomas Boberg Nielsen.


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